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Beast, OP, and the Roastmaster

  Tempokai

  In the wless frontier of ScribbleHub Forums, where egos csh like drunken swordsmen and reason is but a distant myth, a battle was destined to happen. It was not a battle of wit, nor of principle, but of sheer, unrelenting stubbornness—a tragicomedy where the self-righteous sought validation, the obsessed clung to their grievances, and the indifferent turned the whole affair into an eborate joke.

  OP, draped in the false mantle of moral duty, stepped forth to “help” by means of public humiliation, oblivious to the irony of their own fixation.

  Beast, the eternal exile of RoyalRoad, raved on, their vendetta as unshakable as the stars.

  And then, there was Roastmaster—the smirking executioner of pretension, sharpening his rhetorical bde, knowing full well that no one truly wins an internet argument, but some can at least walk away ughing.

  And so, with the thread set abze and Justabot lurking in the shadows, the stage was set.

  Thus, Beast, OP, and the Roastmaster begins.Round 1. OPTitle: Beast's history and obsession with RoyalRoadI don't use Scribble Hub much, and that's an understatement. I got bored and checked out these forums recently. Only to see that Beast is still, somehow, obsessed with RoyalRoad.

  This saddens me to no end. I really hoped they'd given up on this by now.

  Weirdly enough, I can't seem to find any posts from Beast expining exactly what happened. Barring a short comment they made recently when asked about it:

  It's not a secret. I came to the "MJ's paradise" to find the broader audience than the smaller, less story-focused sites could offer. It time, I became frustrated with their attitude and constantly tightening rules, then had a disagreement with them, and left.

  This is so purposefully vague that it's dishonest and misleading. So I find myself compelled to give a more thorough retelling of the events. I hope it acts as a wake-up call for Beast and helps give everyone else a clearer picture. At least for those that weren't already there for it.

  To start with, they had many alts they used to post on the royalroad forums besides their main Beasts account. A lot of posts. Ones that touted weirdly specific accusations and delusions, and did so without trying to be nice about it.

  On royalroad, some of their many alts included: "sbeE siE", "Gib.kek", and "odindi.xevv". Just going off the obvious ones that other people on the forums mentioned were Beast alts. No idea how many others I'm forgetting or didn't notice. The sbeE siE account in particur was their main account for ranting about the site, the rating system, and spouting conspiracy theories. Everyone disagreeing with their posts just upset Beast more and more as time went on. Literally hundreds and hundreds of posts of increasingly aggressive delusions.

  I almost can't believe that Beast is still accusing people of working for royalroad, even on this site, in a recent post. Because that's completely sane behavior and not at all concerning.

  There were more alts but they came and went so quickly most of us lost track. As Beast makes incredibly specific cims about that site, identifying their alts was extremely easy. Oh, the site is owned by Google or Amazon? It's a Beast alt. The rating system is there because royalroad is evil? It's a Beast alt. The site makes Billions of dolrs by exploiting authors? It's a Beast alt. That's before mentioning their syntax, which is very distinct and recognizable.

  Beast. Brother. Almost everyone knew about your alts on royalroad, and they were all ughing at you. You constantly making alts was a long-running joke for the authors on those forums.

  After their sbeE siE account finally got banned for becoming increasingly unhinged (or they deleted it out of frustration, I don't actually know which), they couldn't hold back with ranting on their main account. That just made their use of alts much more public. This led to them becoming even more ostracized and making a dramatic thread about leaving shortly thereafter. A thread they deleted when the responses from authors were almost universally flippant and relieved instead of supportive.

  I mean. They didn't actually leave. They kept using alts on the forums after that, because they can't help themselves. Though they did delete their story and main account from the site.

  They also didn't keep their obsession contained to one site. Their reddit username is, unsurprisingly, "Beasts". While some of their more unpopur comments were removed or deleted, you can see they stopped posting on the royalroad subreddit around the end of 2023. That could be considered progress! If only the reason for that weren't that they just switched to alts on reddit, too, once people started to recognize and ridicule Beast's typical responses. Or when we include how Beast started posting about their obsession on these forums, too.

  I don't pay much attention to that subreddit, so I only remember one of their alts they were using on reddit. It was something close to the username "pelpthateminem", possibly with dashes or underscores mixed in. That one was eventually recognized as an alt and also deleted, because Beast can't help beating the same talking points to death on every account. No idea how many other alts they tried on there.

  Now here we are, years after they've left the site. Still making posts about royalroad almost daily. Before even accounting for other ptforms and other alts they could still be using to continue to rant about it.

  It's possible Beast is going to say I'm being dishonest about these series of events. That I'm over or under exaggerating them somehow. It's a good thing you don't have to take my word for what happened. There are still some quotes that survived those accounts getting deleted, at least on royalroad's forums, to demonstrate what I've cimed is true.

  Hell, let's say we ignore everything I've said. Look at their posting history on these forums and take them on their own merits. Can you imagine any possible scenario that would reasonably justify their obsession? Even if we just go solely by the activity they've demonstrated on Scribble Hub's forums?

  Look. I get it. We thought Beast's obsession was funny on royalroad, too. It became increasingly less funny and more concerning as time went on. It stopped being funny entirely over 1000 posts ago.

  If you care about them at all, I encourage you try to get them to see a mental health professional. If you don't care, I hope you'll at least resist feeding into their delusions and obsession. Either way, now you'll have some context for their posts constantly mentioning royalroad.

  Round 2. ChorusI do not agree with Beast's obsession. I do not agree with this post either. If you are so concerned you would've reached out to Beast personally, dropping badly hidden attempt to ridicule beast and start a drama. I'm reporting this thread and you for harassing a person. I hope you have a good day on RR forums.

  Round 3. OPAh yes. I've definitely never sent messages to Beast before, suggesting they seek help privately, hoping they would get the help they need. Beast is obviously a totally healthy person that would listen to such a suggestion in good faith instead of seeing it as an attack or a conspiracy.They left royalroad years ago. They're still obsessed. You guys humor them and treat it like a ugh, encouraging the delusion. Forcing them to face the truth of the matter is about all one can do to try to help at this point. Or make one of you more aware, hope they value your opinion enough to listen to your suggestion, and have you try to get them help.

  It definitely isn't going to hurt more than ughing at their obsession and treating it like a good thing and encouraging it.

  Round 4. RoastmasterFor every reason there's action. No one wakes up one day and says, You know what? I think I’ll dedicate years of my life to an internet crusade against a website! There has to be a trigger, some deep personal grievance, real or imagined, that set the course of the action further by the individual. I don't see you doing any analysis on this. All I see is "Beast bad, because site good," without giving any example on what action that RR did to make Beast go haywire on alt accounts.

  People don’t develop conspiracy theories in a vacuum. If there's an observable fact, and it can't be expined by clear logic, conspiracies emerge. But, because gaslighting and reframing exists, the truth gets distorted. If you saw that individual, and didn't help with clearing out the assumptions and the conspiracies, I see that as a community you had failed to connect with individuals, however unlikeable they might be.

  When the community becomes hostile you for stating facts, however wrong might be, you feel powerless. Had you seen what perceived powerlessness does to people? It makes weak willed people obsess with whatever thing that made them wrong, even when that wrong was accidental or delusional. Strong willed move on, but that's not what happened here.

  The more Beast ranted, the more they were ostracized. The more ostracized they became, the more isoted they felt. That isotion led to further obsession, a feedback loop where the only thing left was their grudge. When people are ridiculed instead of understood, they often double down rather than change. This is what lead to this situation.

  Did you think about this? Clearly no, because you need to have a point that "this individual bad because of a bad behavior." It makes you look as a perverted crusader who obsesses with people who hate your system. Every stubbornness has its roots. Every ridiculous statement has a sliver of truth. You just don't want to talk about it.

  What if, instead of mocking Beast in RR, someone had asked them in there, What really happened to you for you to get obsessed with this site?Would we have a different story? Would they have calmed down, felt heard, and moved on?Instead, all I see is the tragedy of a person so consumed by bitterness that they became the town fool—and an RR audience too annoyed to wonder why and compin about it in SH.

  Round 5. OP>All I see is "Beast bad, because site good," without giving any example on what action that RR did to make Beast go haywire on alt accounts.

  I'm not saying that. Screw royalroad for all I care. It's not beast bad cause site good. It's "Beast is saying things that are actually delusional and they need to talk to a professional."

  Was I not specific enough? I felt the post was extremely longwinded as it was. It started with their gripes about the rating system being unfair and evolved from there to demonizing it in pretty much all the ways and turning it into their personal boogeyman.

  >What if, instead of mocking Beast in RR, someone had asked them in there, What really happened to you for you to get obsessed with this site? Would we have a different story? Would they have calmed down, felt heard, and moved on?

  Instead, all I see is the tragedy of a person so consumed by bitterness that they became the town fool—and an RR audience too annoyed to wonder why and compin about it in SH...

  Plenty tried to reason with them, make them feel heard, and be nice. It did not work. You can also look to the past several years of them posting on these forums with people humoring them and commiserating and how it hasn't stopped their obsession.

  Like I don't even use these forums. I'm not trying to make them better for me or get rid of an annoyance. I genuinely think they need to see a professional, and I hope one of you manages to get them to seek it.

  Round 6. ChorusRight, serious talk this time.I believe everything that needs to be said is already out here, I can't see the point in any further conversation. I couldn't give any less of a shit about what happened some years ago on RR. Right now, Beast doesn't do any harm to the community or anyone else.

  This thread was doomed from the start, regarldess of the fact if you speak the truth or not.

  Round 7. RoastmasterYou are saying that you're "concerned," but I don't see any way you're trying to help. Again, you're acting like a crusader who only wants to mock someone (even when trying to "help,") because they annoyed you so much you just want those grandstanding moral superiority points.

  What a powerful rhetorical trick you're using: once someone is “unstable,” you don’t have to engage with their arguments anymore. That would've worked IRL, but you're in the fucking internet.

  If this forum was a smalltalk smalltown community I would've 100% supported this. But this is internet, and you don't know anything REAL about this individual. Why you're acting like a person of credibility when you're essentially doing the same stuff the Beast did in RR? Hypocrite.

  There’s a big difference between trying to help and telling someone they’re wrong until they shut up.

  Round 8. ChorusWe treated it as a gag when we thought it was a gag. When it first started way back. Now no one who saw it for more than once treat is as a funny joke. A lot of people keep liking beast's profile posts, but I bet it's because of pics, I mean, we are SH, and beast posts furry art.When beast sndered tyrano I reported beast. And I don't rememebr people reacting with haha there, apart from certain individuals that aren't reputable. I don't even remember much likes on beast's posts back then. Though my memory might be failing me.

  Round 9. Roastmaster[Reply to Round 8 Chorus]I'm here for their furry boobas, not whatever RR opinions they have. I like that for every RR outburst there's a booba on the feed. It's like a smoker putting a coin into a booba looking jar every time they smoke lol

  Round 10. OPEh. It's not like there isn't some truth here. I admitted I don't like them as a person, and that obviously bled through.

  Mental health is still important to me and I am genuinely saddened to see them still obsess over royalroad. The encouragement I saw in their post history is definitely not helping. It was actually a bit upsetting seeing people encouraging the delusions and reinforcing them.

  This thread likely won't amount to anything, and I still won't regret making the attempt. Worst case scenario, people are more aware of how they're encouraging Beast's obsession and might do it less.

  Beast has literally accused forum members on this site of working for royalroad. Yes. They're unwell. Do you want to tell me that's a rational discussion one shouldn't dismiss out of hand? That it isn't a delusion?

  If you feel the need to engage with that argument and convince them that someone doesn't work for royalroad, by all means. It isn't the first time they've made this cim, and nothing you say will convince them otherwise. The only thing that would change their mind is seeing a professional that helps them understand themselves.

  Round 11. RoastmasterOh, so now this isn’t about Beast—it’s about the community "encouraging" them? That’s a nice little pivot. Too bad that I expined why I'm here, for boobas for every RR outburst. If your goal was to help the community, why did your original post spend so much time just ridiculing Beast? Sure, they're this, they're that, they annoyed so much, so why you just not move on, like a strong willed man you cim to be by trying to "help"?

  Even if Beast is completely delusional, shutting them down or mocking them clearly hasn’t helped. Has anyone actually tried asking them why they believe what they believe?

  I don’t have to entertain Beast’s paranoia to recognize that something caused it. Just saying "they need professional help" doesn’t expin how they got here.

  Round 12. OP>Oh, so now this isn’t about Beast—it’s about the community "encouraging" them? That’s a nice little pivot.

  That's not a pivot. It's still about beast, but they're not going to go see someone at my say-so. The whole post was about making the audience, you guys, realize beast is unwell and needs help. I even ended it by btantly saying I hope people at least stop feeding into their delusion. I was very upfront about all that.

  I understand it's a rather long post, so you might have missed that bit.

  >Even if Beast is completely delusional, shutting them down or mocking them clearly hasn’t helped. Has anyone actually tried asking them why they believe what they believe?

  They aren't exactly shy about it. Do you think people haven't asked them why they're so obsessed? It seems like no matter what I say you want to find fault in it.

  Multiple angles have been tried. Kindness, understanding, trying to gently lead them to the answer, telling them bluntly to get help, humoring them. Nada. Seeing them still so obsessed about royalroad and having that obsession encouraged is upsetting.

  The only thing I haven't tried, because I am not one of their friends, is for their current community to attempt to get them to seek help. Hence, this post.

  >Forcing them to seek help by publicly calling them out is one of the worst things you can do.

  This thread is either going to get people to try to help Beast, encourage them a bit less, or they're going to keep being obsessed. Given they were going to keep being obsessed anyways, this isn't going to hurt anything.

  Round 13. RoastmasterYou didn't answer why you're so obsessed with this individual. I ask again, if this was really about the community all along, why did most of your post just mock Beast? Did Beast somehow created radical anti-RR terrorist cell in SH like you're trying to portray? No. This is just an individual who hot burned with RR experience, went totally mad, and now you're still persecuting even when that certain individual left that site, being totally bitter about the experience.

  Oh, also, I read it just fine. I just don’t buy the idea that this was about helping anyone. Publically calling out someone is a risk, and if the people aren't exactly biased like you are, it will fail. You had failed to do just that.

  SH is completely different compared to RR. It is capable of self moderating because it's a smaller site. There aren't any radicalized groups occupying this site, and specifically this forum, so why you're so obsessed with calling out one bitter individual who certainly will not fool anyone with the anti-RR rhetoric? That's dumb. And with you publicly calling that individual out again and again certainly doesn't remove bel "obsessed" from you.

  Forcing someone to seek help by making a spectacle out of them rarely works. This thread is an example. It didn't achieve anything besides having more intent on self moderation. If that individual you speak of goes out of the line, that individual will be punished. Tony is our benevolent Lord, and he'll do what needs to be done.

  Round 14. OP>You didn't answer why you're so obsessed with this individual. I ask again, if this was really about the community all along, why did most of your post just mock Beast? Did Beast somehow created radical anti-RR terrorist cell in SH like you're trying to portray? No. This is just an individual who hot burned with RR experience, went totally mad, and now you're still persecuting even when that certain individual left that site, being totally bitter about the experience.

  I did answer you. I said it was upsetting seeing someone unwell have their delusion encouraged. Someone that I failed to help when they were on royalroad. You can choose to not believe me, but that is the reason.

  >Oh, also, I read it just fine. I just don’t buy the idea that this was about helping anyone. Publically calling out someone is a risk, and if the people aren't exactly biased like you are, it will fail. You had failed to do just that.

  You're free to not believe me. But Beast has never dispyed any behavior that this would be any kind of risk in bringing it up. The only risk is that I would fail to accomplish anything, and at that point, who cares? Just means it would become another pointless thread on the Scribble Hub forums.

  >so why you're so obsessed with calling out one bitter individual who certainly will not fool anyone with the anti-RR rhetoric? That's dumb. And with you publicly calling that individual out again and again certainly doesn't remove bel "obsessed" from you.

  I'm pretty sure I can point to Beast's behavior of ranting about royalroad every day as obsessed. I don't think I can qualify my behavior of a thread and a few posts as obsessed. Especially considering how long it's been since they even crossed my mind. By those standards, you're way more obsessed than I am about almost everything you've ever posted about.

  I tried a few posts, was dissatisfied with how I handled it, then made a thread about it. I'm not going to continue to bang my head against that wall further. I'm far too zy to have an obsession.

  So either I made an impact or I didn't. I'd rather be a person that tried and failed than just shook my head and ignored someone that obviously needs help. Especially when there are no consequences for my failure.

  Round 15. RoastmasterWow, a tragic hero against the society! Certainly not hypocritical, as you could've just pressed that "ignore" button on the delusional, always wrong, always irritating individual with a nickname "Beasts".

  You’ve spent this whole thread ranting about how Beast is obsessed, but now you’re acting like you don’t care? Which is it? I certainly don't care, I just like boobas the beast is posting and breaking down the rhetoric of obsessed, full of ego "saviors" like you.

  You did the spectacle, and I'm just a performer showing how delusional about your position you are, even if the individual is a paranoid mess after RR. You didn’t try to help—you tried to shame. That’s not the same thing. So, I'm doing the same against you, shaming you for even trying to make this thread in question.

  A normal individual doesn't take seriously what internet people are saying. The fact you are serious makes me try to mock your rhetoric even more. The thing you've shown with this post that you're:1. Petty. Showing the thing that made you to have hatred.2. Have savior complex. You're trying to save someone who hates you, which is just pin stupid. Hate is equal to love in terms of emotions, so I think you're obsessed with this individual just by talking about it.3. Egoistical. No sane person asks to "help" stranger on the internet unless they want to feed their ego. That's pin stupid.4. Want to have power without having one. You're not a moderator, not a person affiliated with this site. You have no power. Tony will handle it if it's too much for ordinary user to handle.

  And that's just the surface. I don't know you, where are you from, what you do, but with the text you've sent, all I see is a petty ego that can't handle that some annoying individual moved on but still posts about the site you like.

  Pathetic.

  Round 16. OPI mean I would take your post seriously and keep responding in good faith as I have been. Except for the part where you're literally telling me I'm foolish and mocking me for taking this seriously.

  Especially after that list. I'm not exactly difficult to insult even from going from just this thread, but those were quite the reach.

  I've seen your roast thread. This was not your best work. Not an invitation, though. Clearly this conversation isn't going to go any further and I won't be making any more progress here, if there was any to be had at all.

  Round 17. RoastmasterAh yes, the cssic "I could keep arguing, but I choose not to." Cssic move when you have nothing left to say. Cool, that means you can't refute anything I said. You just said my list was "quite the reach" without expining why. Almost like you had no counter.

  Oh no, my roast didn’t meet your standards? Damn, I guess I’ll have to try harder next time. Oh wait, you’re leaving. Better luck next time trying to hate someone publicly.

  No need to pretend you’re leaving because you want to. We both know you ran out of arguments. Don't even try to have a st word, ego.

  Denouement. Chorus.Chorus member #1: I think beast is compining about RR to have an excuse to post furry pics daily. the bastard is obsessed alright

  Chorus member #2: OP should stop digging. You already reached bedrock, man. Not only that, you missed several diamond ore on the way down. It's time to reroute. The only thing you will find this way is more skeletons without loot. Plus, your inventory is full at the same time. Go store all of those bones in a chest or something.

  Justabot: Targeting a user like this is just inviting drama. Locked.

  Anagnorisis Epilogue[One hour prior of Round 1]

  Cat: I wonder what is your story exactly with the site that shall not be named?

  Chorus member #3: Has he not talked about it enough for you know? Also, what site was it again?

  Beast: It's not a secret. I came to the "MJ's paradise" to find the broader audience than the smaller, less story-focused sites could offer. It time, I became frustrated with their attitude and constantly tightening rules, then had a disagreement with them, and left.

  OP: Well. Do you want some actual details? Clearly they're not going to be specific or forthwith, and I've got all the dirty deets. Maybe if everyone knew about the lengths of their obsession, it might be a wake up call to actually try to get the help they need.

  Cat: I am a cat~. So I am just confuzzled.

  The End.

  ...or is it?

  Dawn of the Next Day. Post-CreditsCat: ?? ?? ??

  Beast: Do you know of any threads that might cause spontaneous appearance of cats on my profile?

  Cat: Some meanie words were said about you~. ?? ?? ??

  Beast: Oh, where?

  Author (Roastmaster): The thread was deleted but I saved whatever I could. Enjoy.

  Beast: I thought the era of feuilletons had passed the long time ago! Very journalistic. Not very investigative, as I assume, since it doesn't cover my rant about the review swaps which started it all, and some revetions were rather inaccurate too.

  Cat: Are you a German meow?

  Beast: Do I feel German? Because, my departure (or should I call it, the rage quit) from the Royal Road sparked an insignificant (yet still amusing) "conspiracy theory" called "It was Beast's alt all along" which wasn't entirely wrong, but they guessed some wrong, accusing the innocent users. By the way, I recreated the account on the site, roughly 1 or 2 months after my departure, but never used it, for example.

  Cat: Not necessarily. I am not sure~. That is why I am asking~.

  Beast: No, I am not German meow. ?? However, the "beast's alts all along" was based on the statement of the chronical down-voter named "Ziggy" that assumed that the simir sentence structure meant there were alt accounts. The "Ziggy" - being the saint he is- still mocks people on the Royal Road forum to this day, with the same fervor I compin here.

  Author: Now that's a plot twist. Too bad that the story is fictional, I can't do anything about it. *wink*

  True End.

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